Episode 34: Ivana Mišić Life of a Concert Flutist & Soloist

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Episode 34: Ivana Mišić Life of a Concert Flutist & Soloist 

In this episode, we interview Ivana Mišić a concert flutist and soloist who has worked with international conductors, orchestras, masterclasses, and competitions. She discusses growing up in Croatia and how her musical talents, inspiration, and creativity evolved from many life events and opportunities. We ask her some questions that we all wonder about when watching a flute player in an orchestra. Her answers may surprise you. Among many of her accomplishments as a performer, she has had the opportunity to play improv compositions with jazz ensembles and orchestras.


Show Notes:

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I notice something you were doing last night Rod. Oh yeah. Alex how long possibly be every time you make a sandwich, you cut it into little squares. Why is that? It seems to be kind of a reoccurring theme in my life, probably noticed, Thursday and squares, but the real truth is a cut it up into these little four squares. It's like having for sandwiches instead of one, I get to enjoy it more often. I get it makes it last longer in the diet tip. 4 people, right? I suppose. It could be. Yeah. Song. Hi everyone. And here we are celebrating what people love to do creatively by giving them a voice, I'm Rod Jones and I'm in G Jones. Welcome to the thought, Rowe, podcast. We invite you to subscribe wherever you listen and we are available virtually anywhere. You listen to podcasts. Yes. And you know what we've discovered? Yes, creativity is absolutely everywhere. Long as you don't have to look very far to find it either like our guest today. Who happens to be a very accomplished concert and solo flutist today, we will be speaking with Ivana message from Croatia. You know, you and I both love classical music which is good that we have that in common me too and the flute is the oldest instrument in the world. And you know, I kind of would have thought drums made and I thought to the flute apparently is a full instrument. It's an actual instrument. So this is really going to be an interesting conversation for Yep, but no, it's time for your weekly quote. Okay, so the quote for this week is music is the Divine way to tell beautiful poetic brings to the heart and that's by Pablo casals. Yes. And you know what he would know? That's right. He would an okay. Now it's going to be your turn, right? And let's talk about Pablo out for a minute. You want to talk about Pablo. Okay. Just wanted to say one thing for wedding, things to the heart, you know, music. Okay. And then live in your soul, it just makes you feel really good. You know, you're really right in and it has a different language unto itself, really? Yeah, he was like a touch as different places in your heart without maybe even words. It's just musical notes. Sure, I like that. Yeah. So are you ready now for your motivational moment? Yes, I am ready. Okay, so now it's your turn. It'd be better if I had opening music, something really Grand. Well, yep. Don't have any opening music for you, because you did it pick any out? Oh well. So let's, let's have your motivation to come on. Don't leave your dreams behind them home. That's my today's motivational. Moment moment, thank you. Don't leave your dreams behind. So what does that mean to you though? You know, what's interesting about our dreams, they usually start, you know, things that we want to be home, it starts when you're a little kid, you know, when your child true. In fact, I remember when we interviewed Madison, the opera singer, she started realizing that she wanted to sing at a very young age and and ultimately, she knew she wanted to be an opera singer, which is, you know, that's fairly rare for a young child, but she deeply knew that it was built within home and so many of us have dreams that start out when we're children. And then, you know, life takes over. I think about my grandparents on their farm and change their dream was to make sure the crops came in and to raise five kids and they didn't even hardly ever watch television and they were very happy. They seem to live a you know, they dead. Stresses, of course, but not like today. Why do you think we leave our dreams behind? Do you think it's because life just gets really complicated, especially nowadays, it's, it doesn't sound like, when your grandparents were, you know, doing their farm and, you know, their their tasks, and their concerns were pretty channeled in and they weren't so spread out all over the place where they weren't being pulled so many different directions. And then also, as you mature, you have, you make some choices in life and especially if you get married, you get married and you're young man, you have responsibilities to the family and maybe you, you know, you need to get a job. You need, you may have house payments or apartment rent, whatever you need.

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Make sure you have adequate income to provide for your family and then all of a sudden, if, if when you were younger, you wanted to be a drummer in a rock band, right? All of a sudden you go, well, I don't think that's going to happen. And I have too many responsibilities and interestingly enough, some people as they get older and they retire. They look back over their lives and they start living their dream home. And which is, as I say, is better better at some point in your life, I guess than better than ever get better than ever. Well, you know, this, this episode is going to be somewhat centered around music, right? Yes, absolutely, yeah. And to me music is such an international language. It doesn't matter what language you speak or what country you're from almost, everyone can relate to music and The Human Experience by the music. They hear so true. In fact music, really, just touches your heart and so many ways that maybe even words can sometimes. You know, you're really it speaks to you with the tone off. Intonations. So many different ways that certainly does in a lot of music is ritual to and ritual music goes back. Practically to the beginning of the time, beginning of time. Yeah. The other thing I want to say about music and I know when I hear certain types of music, it makes me want to eat certain types of food. Well yeah, I mean Italian food that's what came to my mind off and maybe Greek food to a Greek food food. It makes you want to have a glass of wine and yes and some and some delicious Italian food Italian food. Yeah, so music off sets the stage for so many things that sets the stage for romance. It can. It's very much involved in Romance violence, especially, I guess violence. And what was that song that I love? That was from the 40s. All of a sudden, my blank about battle, big band, sound, big band. Sounds there was a Miller, Glenn Miller how romantic was that? Well, especially when you consider that music off. Being played mostly during the time or time and couples that got together. Got married. Those are the songs that became very close to their heart option. When someone were shipped overseas, they would hear that music on the ship or even where they were based and it would remind them of their their love back home, the other loved back home. And then I'm sure there's a lot, a lot of tears to a lot of people even later in life, when they'd hear that song. Again, they would think back to something that they had experienced. I mean, music does bring back experiences in life definitely does if you if you go to a cathedral and you hear an organ play generally will always remind you of the grandest of the cathedral it does. But the song jumping over to thinking about the people that we've interviewed, I really have enjoyed how we've had the opportunity to explore. How many ways? How many people? Find ways to be creative. Yeah, so true. And there's so many different avenues that we really don't consider when we think about creativity and inspiring ourselves and their journey and their Journey only when they when our guests have shared with us, their journey to becoming attuned, to whatever it was. That was so special times when they were a child and then as they matured and they still reflected him back on the first things that they felt when they first discovered, this is something that they really wanted to do and for the most part, are the people that we interview managed to live their dream. That's so true. And you know what? And the thing about the podcast, that's really interesting and and evolving is that when you listen to the different people and their experiences, you may not relate to someone that, you know, does welding or Opera. But there are tidbits in there that really cool. And enhance what how you think or your creativity? There may be just a couple of words that they say in the way that they handle their lives and what inspired them, that could also be an inspiration for you, for sure, their their personal stories are personal stories are fascinating and and we've listened to people tell us some of their deepest, thoughts and off and, and in many cases kind of emotionally. It's been a discovery for us and actually has been a discovery for them because they, they had a voice. We gave him a voice and they could talk about how they got involved in their creativity, right on. But yeah, it's time to introduce our special guest.

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That's true. Faith. Ivana, welcome to the thought, Rowe podcast. Where you know what? You're going to be. Our very first dentist? Yes. Hi, even, we're so excited to have you with this job today. Thank you so much. I'm very excited to break the ice. It's so much fun to be with you here today. Thank you for inviting absolutely dead. Welcome. Well before we start our interview officially, we always like to ask our guest. What they had for breakfast. So what did you have for breakfast? Okay, so now I am in real life. It's a city on the seaside increase their I have many concerts with Orchestra, so I'm in a hotel and I had Hotel breakfast, you know, it's like I don't know if you know, Swedish table, like you can choose a lot of things which are offered. So I had egg bread crusts on Thursday. But usually I you know, this chocolate feeling serials with like pillow pillow cereals with chocolate inside with rice milk. This is what they usually do. But today I had restaurant breakfast. Yeah. Oh nice. That's nice. You do exit that which is makes it even better smartest, smartest, border, buffet, buffet place? That sounds good. Yeah, it's very good. I know where you live because by grandparents immigrated to the US from there. Please tell our listeners where you're from and what your country needs like. It's so great coincidence to meet you. And to find out that, you know, we have this common thing to have described. I live in South Asia, in a capital city of the group. It's a very beautiful country. And here I would like to use this opportunity to home. Say that it's very great to travel to Croatia because it's a so small place. You have a lot of a lot of things which you can explore like the seaside the mountains lot of national parks. I think two hundred more more than two Hundred Islands, which are so beautiful there islands. Where people come to like Rehabilitation, you know, with sea salt and the nature, like the how to say floss Flora from the forests and it's really amazing to be increasing. The climate is very good. The winter is not so-called. That sounds nice. Very beautiful. Yeah, that sounds so nice. And it sound like, I'm perfect place to rejuvenate yourself physically and mentally, everything, spiritually, you know. Yeah, you know, both both my dog. My brother-in-law's, I guess has been two years now? Yeah, it's been visited there. They went to the Townshend areas where my grandparents grew up, and we still have some relatives there, but that's what they said. When they came back, obviously they showed us some pictures that they had taken. But probably the thing I really enjoyed hearing from them was how gracious and warm and combined everybody that they met in your country. They they they could not speak enough about how Charming helpful caring. They just waved you live in a great country. There's no doubt about that and I'm not just saying that because that's my lineage but it's true. It's true. Yeah. Creation people like to meet new people and they have so much Hospitality in their veins, you know. They usually like to be good. They like to make people feel appreciated and welcomed. Croatia. That's why we are very much, two rhystic country. There's a lot of tourists coming abroad. So yeah, it's very nice to come and Croatia, you should definitely come when you've finish. So that's our, that's our goal of our whole family said, you know, they go this time garage and energy, you have to come with us. So that's our plan is a great great. Yeah. Hey. So I guess, my first question is share with us your journey and to becoming a flutist. Okay. So I'm not from a musical family. Everyone is mainly economists arrange and field, and politics, and this kind of jobs.

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Yeah, when I was a kid, I was really good at singing in kindergarten, and after some time, my mother asked me if I'm interested to go back. Musical school and I just say, I want to play flute. It came like out of nowhere. I have here. It anywhere on the radio or television, just came up my mind. And this is how I started to started to play flute and I really like flute because you have to produce sound with your own breath. And I found this really amazing because it's really natural to connect the music you are playing because we all have to breathe and this is something true. Yeah. And this is where natural very of playing. So I I really enjoy playing the flute. Yeah, that's interesting. How old were you? When you first picked up, the flu shot. I was nine, nine years old. See that's pretty young. Yes, yes, yes. And it's very good to start in the young age because you can fix. Think, before you start to think and, you know, analyze everything. Yeah, that's very true. That's very true. Yeah. You know, it's my understanding that the song, the flute is the oldest instrument in the world and as a classical performer, would have been some of the challenges that you've had playing this instrument. Well, when I was studying flute, of course, I had the challenge to find a good sound. This was, this was from for me, the biggest challenge during Academy wage, I think it's took me three or four years to figure out what is my sound like, not to copy sound of my teacher, not to copy some of them, some food player. So I was listening to. So yeah, this was, this was my biggest challenge in this process of becoming professional musician because also offer our growing your personality. It's also difficult to find out what is your style. What is exactly? You like? Or you don't like? So these are some things like also figuring out myself. Also, it's a reflected on the flute. Yeah. Interesting. So interesting, you know, I when I think of maybe playing in an orchestra, I always feel like you have to pee A little bit void of style. So that way you're doing what the concertmaster wants you to do the conductor. But you have to be a little bit more taking I guess that's especially if there's yeah, he wonders for flute players. Also side by side panel, have everybody different. So it's really encouraging for me to hear that. You have to, you know, you work on your own style instead of being. Yes. Just playing by the notes, basically, you know. Yeah, yeah. I also play an orchestra very often and in a way not literally. I often find Orchestra as a corporation. So everyone is important. But you are part of a big group and you have to follow the rules in order to contact them successful and this is very challenging for me. That's why I am freelanced good player and I like to change orchestras and symbols chamber music so I just don't fix dead. My personality and my style of playing to one Orchestra because this is very important to me to stay individual and never lose my sound and my life expression. This is very important for me. That makes a lot of sense. I guess, if you're familiar with a, if you're part of a full-on Orchestra, you're always playing what the life you said. It's kind of a corporation. Oh yes. Yeah, you're you're fixing to play but, you know, I heard that some leaders of Corporations come down on musical, rehearsal for orchestra to learn about team-leading and to learn about how system is going because to play in orchestras actually, I mean, I talk to musician is very natural. You know, you have the notes, you have Dynamic, you have conductor button Corporation, these things, all need to be communicated and it's very easy. Resting what we can do together and thinking about it, how we can play together. And this is also very interesting. That's why I'm still playing in Orchestra, right? Because this is so interesting. So I can imagine it really is, you know, before I ask you the next question, I want to mention that the your audio sounds incredible and I want to listeners to know that you're actually talking to us from a concert hall.

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Oh yeah. I'm just now I have to record the some videos for my website because I'm supposed to do coaching for students. Yeah, we're going to, I'm going to ask you about your teaching in a little bit, but my question was the the whole world knows them live music performances during the last year, half or so? It literally stopped. I mean, it came to a screeching halt, do to test and there have been some virtual performances. Taken place. But how is this. Affected your business as a musician? Well, it was very difficult because for one whole year off have any performances or concerts and basically nothing was happening. This is very difficult part of the year. I would just practicing and, you know, reading books and doing whatever. I can just to stay motivated. But in two months, before two months considered started to happen, and now I'm very lucky that I have so many concerts off my summer is really full week, various concerts, and it's difficult because now here in the account, just two days ago, they brought a new law that we have to offer the coverage free concerts. So everyone who is participating in concert, both Orchestra and audience, they have to have negative test result or off. And this is little bit making all this harder to organize. Even though we are, we have concerts outside on the, in the like Arena, you know, off the old arena. Yes, opener. But still we have to, we have to have this thing sorted. So this is making things difficult. But somehow we are managed. I think play hard. I just been particularly hard on musician. So I mean we we saw one on television and then we noticed that the audience, they were all sitting several seats a part. They all had their mess. We also noticed that the performers obviously, if they had if they were a woodwind or float or whatever, they were worried a mask but the temp Oneness or the off, the string instruments, they all had their masks on and it was kind of it was kind of a little interesting. Yeah. Saying the leaves resting. Yes, it's so difficult because dead Can you wear a mask? You have difficulties with breathing and no matter if you are violent. There's also need to everyone has to wear masks, except when players, but it's really difficult, then when conductor is trying to say something, you cannot hear him because it's lower lower sound off timer. Yes, it's so difficult. I really hope this crisis will end soon and then we can try to find now on the home know we have to be very flexible and also try other Solutions. Like you said earlier digital concerts digital manifestation, especially with two became a New Concept for it's really terrible. But this can be true today. There's nothing like a live performance through, there's nothing. Yeah, it's so different job. Because when you are there and it's happening in this human factor of, you know, making music is changing the whole feeling, but I have to be happy for what we have and try to make it better in a job to mean. It's, you know, it it might serve a purpose somewhere. A little creativity wage was so, you know, maybe it's a good thing, I don't know. Yeah, so we can assist, you know, earlier we were talking earlier about you starting to play as a child. Now, it seems like the earlier a child starts to play an instrument, it builds self-confidence, and stimulates the brain. What are your thoughts on that? Well, to be honest, I don't remember that. I was confident as a child to be performing and everything. So I think that's very difficult to have confidence when you are starting to play. And but, but it's it's very good to start early because of the body wage because body changes when you are, when you grow up and you can make your fingers faster when you are a child. So some, some practical things are not good, their their advantage advantages and disadvantages.

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I know, for example, I think Jean-Pierre rampal this is good player passed away very famous. I think he started to play flute when he was eighteen years old and he managed to become most successful the flute player in his time. So there's no way Jose There is no glue to anything because, you know, exception makes those will. So, yeah, but it's good for me that I started this earlier. Yeah, to play the flute. And I'm, yeah, well, you've maintained a passion for it? Yes, yes. Yes. That's the important part. You know, when when when you see a flute player up close, it's obvious that they have to hold their lips in certain position to make the fluid have the different intonations and sound, is that difficult to do? I know you talked about a little bit, but, but when you watch a food pair, obviously, they have to hold their lips a certain way. Yeah, I'm really amazed. How you made this observation? I have to say this is Julie amazing Q. This. Yeah. It's it's a special way of of blowing their fluid is the only wind instrument who has open house. To play. So it's more difficult to produce the sound on a flute than it's on a saxophone or the clarinet. Because on, saxophone, you have closed closed. I think, mouthpiece in English is called and you, you just put your lips on it, and then, of course, you need to work on the sound, but I think that sounds, comes immediately through the, the printer instrument, but food is different because you have to have an embouchure, which is with four children. We use the Expression. You have to think that sleep is like a snail on the, on the mouth on the mouth piece. So it has to be really. Yes, really? It's it's, it has to be a widen up and walk to the multiplication. This is really difficult to produce and there's so many other schools of food, playing some people don't claim. Like a snail on the mouthpiece. Some people have a different temperature, but they, we can talk about this really long. So yeah, I hope this is okay with the recall, my twins. I mean, they have read read and there's nothing between you basically, in that opening in the flute. Yes. Yes, everything has to be controlled by your lips and how your breath. Let me ask you a question cuz I've never picked up a flute in my life. As far as I know, although I watched a lot of flute players are you blowing across the opening or into it? You know, you would not believe but 70% of the air goes out, so just 30%, so it's going in the in the foot. Okay. So you are kind of blowing across. Yes, yes. I blow a lot of across this is it's impossible to God. To blow exactly the whole amount of air in the, in the hole. And that's why so difficult to play flute because you have to have really strong lungs. I noticed as them growing, my lungs have been big since I was small, so I have lungs like us. Like I'm swimming, you know, like I'm professional swimmers interesting and really wild, huh, you wouldn't think that with the flute at all? Like I would think that like a trumpet player or a tuba player, somebody with this very big instrument off. Yes, it sounds like the flu requires more breath control worse than any other instrument. Well, I think all the instruments require a lot of birth control is just different different system and it's a little bit different to to produce. The sound is more difficult, maybe in the beginning, but when you are going down The professional level. I think we are all in the same problem. You don't have to be sales and you have great music, but it's interesting. Also, the small instruments and a lot of pressure and lots of bread. For example, now, I'm also playing Piccolo. It's it's also instrument from the families of fluid, and it's very, very small instrument, but it's so much power and pressure. And it's really interesting because, as you said, it's it would be kind of normal to think big instruments require a lot of wage.

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I have not tried big instrument, I just tried the bass flute and it's bigger than this foot and I just don't need so much. Air is on on concert flute bamboo now. So it's it's very interesting that is interesting too interesting and I'm sure the doctors are going to because you see these instruments but you don't really you don't know what it take wage. To know, you know, and the inside from the actual. Yeah. You know, you yes. Listen to him but you don't get the inside true true. Yeah, yeah that's been a soloist and a concert performer. What are some of the experiences that you've enjoyed the most in the concerts? Well one patient came to my mind. It was not a concert but it was audition for the Dubrovnik Symphony Orchestra I think the third round and I had to plan Certo wage which is one of my favorite concertos ever written for food. So when I had to play, it was very cold in the whole and because the whole Was Made of Stone in Dubrovnik, city of city of Croatia. There's lots of this kind of buildings all buildings which are made from Stone and it was very cold and my audition song, Was during the winter. And I remember this was maybe the the highest density of concentration I ever had on the public performance. I was home. I felt like this composer. Carl Lentz Nielsen is sitting next to me and we are on some very big grass field and in the Norway and I started to cry in the middle of one, really nice melody. And this is the moment I knew that I'm going in this audition because, you know, I was so much into it that I felt I was out of that space at that moment. It was really incredible. Graduation. That is wonderful. Family finger so much. Well that's going to actually work real well with the next question I have. Yeah, we learned from you in an earlier conversation that you've been called upon to perform. Improvisational pieces up with those variations to meet that challenge and in a couple of minutes, I'm going to ask you to play a couple pieces But First Choice. How do those variations? Well this what you mentioned I played the couple of times what I call free improvisation. I want to get a quote on this because maybe some jazz musician. Don't call this free improvisation. It's very different, but the way I see free improvisation is when you should say. How you feel. So you don't have any rules, no Harmony switch. You have to play. So you just stand on on in the contract call and then you play how you feel. So I had the opportunity to play in this kind of concert a couple of times once was dead. With the Jazz Orchestra of the academy where I played regularly and I had solo, which was during the project Harmony of dissonance. And I was just to play, let's say, bipolar. So I played something which was really melodic fluid, very nice Terror against. And then I slide in into something, which reminds me on the chaos, or without harmonies, and very high density intervals. And this is very nice experience, because I never knew what is going to come up from my flute because this was the Only Rule you have to play, how you feel. And sometimes you know I I don't feel every day the same. Why? Something's like you were great. Some things I'm open. Something's I want to be alone and it was really interesting because you know, it was not so small concert wage Was actually in the Big Concert Hall in Zagreb and it was full concert hall. And you know, the lights are on me, everything is black. And then I think with my head, I don't know what time going to play. Just have to let it go. And this is really incredible. Wow. Yeah. You know, that's the brings more attention, wage the words so low energy. What do you think if we ask Ivana to play a couple of things for us? Maybe maybe if honor you can play a little bit of an improvisation.

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And then of course, I know our audience would love to hear something a little bit more classical. We're going to let you get ready and then we'll be right back with you, okay, perfect? No problem. Off. Off off. Off. Off. That was absolutely beautiful. Beautiful Ivana thank you, thank you for sharing your flute. Playing with our listeners today. Yeah I think I did expect it to be so wonderful but you don't really good. Yeah about how can you tell us about the two pieces you just played? Yeah sure. So first place I played was my personal phone conversation and I was thinking maybe it would be good to share with our listeners. Yes, the city of react. I mean now it's very rainy and it's somehow slow in the Sunday. There's not so much people in the road so this was my picture. I had in mind while I'll play this. I played this game improvisation. And also I want to share and somehow evoke the smell of rain in the city. Oh nice place. And the second piece I played. I thought it would be nice to share also with our listeners, the Nielsen concerto I mentioned from the, my own experience in the public performance and they played the excerpt from the melody. When I started to cry in this person sneezed just hearing it that you telling us a little bit about the background of each piece. I mean to re Ur, they were both beautiful, beautiful. But you give you a little bit of a background on a that just icing on the cake. Yes, thank you. Well, you know, you were talking about performing home And, you know, I would like to know before you go out on stage to perform a solo, what is going through your mind? What do you feel when you're when you're doing? Well, that's so interesting question. Actually, I I'm very excited before I have concerts. I don't some special ritual on the day of Kwanzaa. I usually don't practice much. I practice, just 1 hour and I do some light meditation, but before concert, I just stay calm in in the backstage. And when I start performance, I forget about everything. I practiced, I forget everything, I maybe fear of some choices. I, there are difficult. I just let everything go and I let the music lead me to to the concert. So it's, yeah, it's off. Some special resolved. I just tried to let go as much as I can. But certainly seems to be working. Yeah, and and it's also, I love that you're putting yourself in a place of just letting it flow through you.

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Instead of getting worked very well, especially as mechanically unless mechanic or a more emotional. Yeah, it's it's the most difficult thing for me, it's feels like I have to jump from the bowl time and I will, I will fall on the clouds. I know that I would fall in the clouds, but still, it's really difficult to jump. You know what I mean? It's a nice feeling after solo career after it's all over again, especially dice daily life. Yeah, you often I know you often perform in ensembles and you have to work with just a few fellow musicians. How does that work for you? Well, that's very nice because usually incorporate and play with musicians who are already my friends. So it's just like, oh, hanging out through the music and discussing the details and finding out the, the perfect mode and the perfect, you know, the perfect pitch. But it's different with every group. Sometimes I have one friend and piano player, We we played Duo and we are now having a concert in Chicago in another city. Yeah, it's a dog at ML and which team I always have long rehearsals. It's sometimes five or six hours worth of rehearsals and we just go into the music and we cannot stop. Practicing. Oh beautiful. It's it's very good. You know, people are different wage Some with some people I just feel like I don't need to rehearse at all like we can just go on the concert and play. This is also very nice because you can offer this kind of trust and you can feel that other person is following your thoughts and your intentions. So both of both of these things and way of playing, I really like and enjoy, I like the diversity. So it's everything is very interesting, every part. See that's really wonderful. Such Dynamic relationships with people and also identify, you know, with one. I don't need to practice. It's good. I have distrusted. Yeah, you just want to practice because it's just so much fun. I think. Yes, right. Yeah. Now I know there have been some great composers that have written. Compositions specifically off the flute. Do you have a favorite? Well, I I do not have a favorite because there is so many. It's it's like you have to pick a favorite person in your life. You know, I have to choose. Is it my sister or is it my boyfriend? My mother you're not. Everyone is so special in a different way. I walk a couple of them just to give you some information about what is my preference in music? So yeah I really like bok choy. Some kind of special connection. Everytime I play Bach. I feel like I'm in the universe and like, I'm floating to the planets, and every place has its sound and it's very, very special composer for me. But it's really difficult to play, but he's really complex composers. So you have to really prepare off. I think, I think box sat around and said, I'm going to give flute players flutists a hard time. I mean, you really wrote a beautiful compositions for the float. Yeah, I suspect that they were very challenging to play and she's not the only one, you know, there's a lot of composers who, for example, prokofiev, he seems like he makes compositions, which is always little bit a.m. Of the, you know, the technical possibilities of the instrument or just the range not arranged is always, you know, you can all play off all the notes, but technically, the way he brought passage in the music, it's sometimes so challenging that, really, I'm thinking why is this but you are when you practice and when it's a well-practiced, then it's very rewarding to play this kind of composers. Yeah. So, do you do to each other's to play the flute and, and when you are teaching them, are you using some of the same techniques that you? Yes.

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Yes. I I use technique that off my teacher on Academy. Her name is Renata and I really respect her school of teaching, the flute because it seems like to be really perfect. Formula for a great sound and technique. I always used her her way that she taught me, but also I like to add my personal, my personal way of teaching, where I also like to know with the student. I like to know what is happening in their life and this is very important for me to study about their how to say in a psychological way. So then there's tension in some aspects of life. Then I thought how to, how to respond on it and wants to work on and maybe, what kind of compositions would be very suitable to this student? Because every, I think about all the young people have some problem when they are, you know, in the puberty and Adolescence this is very, very fragile fragile. In every month Remain life. So this. I like to combine this rational way where you have you know, one plus one is two and I like to also woke combine with the other way where I trying to find out what's, what's troubling them. And then I started out try to sort it out, help them to sort them out by themselves and this is how I like to build confidence. This is important for me. Well, lucky is the student that has, you know, that's really special. I mean, it's just not. I remember my music teacher which I failed miserably. Add Mister Geiger. I mean, he was, he was one of these music teachers that he would pick up an instrument and throw it at you, really? Yeah. So imagine there was too many people in our high school band that went on to become musicians off. Mostly learn how to wear hard hats. Oh my God. I'm so sorry. It's okay. I guess we could all live vicariously through your successes. Sure that's really good. Yeah, I know we're getting kind of to the end of our end of our interview so I'm going to ask you the question that we asked all of our guests which is, if you could sit on a park bench and chat with anyone from the Past, who would it be? Okay. It's very difficult to answer this question because in my life I feel that I meet everyone who I have to meet and everyone in my life seems to be fulfilling their purpose off. But there is one person who I would love to meet if I have possibility and this is Conductor Herbert for Ankara and he is my favorite song. Doctor. And I always, they always analyzed his recordings and how he conducted. And it's very interesting because he always conducted with his office is closed. This is very unusual for conductor because he is standing in front of the orchestra. And his eyes are always closed and this amount of trashed she gives to the orchestra that they will leave his. They will follow his hand movement. It's so incredible. And I would not just love to sit with him on the bench. I would love to work with him in the orchestral. So yeah, of course, that's a that's a beautiful answer. Wonderful answer. And I think it's really interesting that he condemned the site, close he best. I mean, he's very obviously connected. So the music is and he's feeling it as he's directing, but he's also getting all that wonderful feedback from home. Musician. Yes, yes, it's so incredible. It's like his connected to another world while his conducting. And it's also possible to see this in the, the recordings, you know, black and white recordings of his performances. I'm imagine how is like to be in person with this incredible human being. And it's probably more more exciting and more thrilling than it's, when I see it on recording. So, yeah, he's yeah, he's a person. I would love to read off what a beautiful answer. A great answer and unfortunately, we have to say goodbye.

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Yeah, you've been sent off fabulously, but you've been a fabulous? Fantastic. Yes, absolutely. And your tips I'm leaving out. I don't think so, awful. You been like Thank you so much. I'm very flattered by your words, but I must say that you're so great host, and I'm so relaxed to talk to you and this was really incredible experience for me. Thank you so much pleasure in what region is, well, you know, I have to let everyone know that if you'd like to know more about Ivana we will have links for her under the show. He's just a bond thought, Rowe podcast, so everyone can learn more about her and connect with her and social media and her website. So I think that yeah we need to wrap it up so thank you again Ivana for being on the right, thank you. Okay, bye-bye, bye-bye bye. Thank you so much. Bye everyone. I'm really glad you tuned in today. We hope you enjoyed the thoughts and ideas. We shared with you. We post a new podcast every week. So remember to subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts so you don't miss an episode. So it's bye for now from my husband rod and I wishing everyone a great day. Off.



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